It is believed that UFO-public figures only gather information about the observations with UFOs, and contacts purposefully already come professionals, but it is not so...

It was the turn of an interview that the first time translated into Russian was found on one of utsayev Internet presumably the ufologist Stephen WinGate. Many paradigms and philosophical concepts are similar to other sources, so maybe it's true - you decide. And the rest of the time will show...

Introduction

a letter to the Christian Pfeiler

"I OLE K. from Sweden officially certify that this interview is absolutely truthful information, and is not related to fiction. To me it makes no sense to deceive. I was also skeptical as 99% of ordinary people and also thought it was fiction and fiction, my friend who was regularly informed me about his contacts with a stranger - and female - I simply did not believe him and mocked. Until December 16, in the city in southern Sweden in a small house I saw a truly collective. It's a fact!

This is part of decoded transcripts of an interview that I had borrowed reptiloid-alien female - Lacerta.

She said and showed me so many incredible things in the course of the meeting that I can't deny reality and the truth of her words. This is not fiction, although UFOlogy themselves tend to misinform the public in their so-called transparent and public journals. I am convinced that this transcript contains only the truth, and so You should read it.

I spoke with her for more than 3 hours, so that the following transcript shows that You only have cut part of the interview, because she asked me after the interview in order not to publish all she said to me now.

The order of questions in this transcript is not always the same order in which I asked them, so that it can sometimes seem a bit confusing to You. It was not easy to remove all the important parts that she asked that I deleted from the transcript, so I apologize for perhaps an unusual order. I am in possession of a full transcript of the interview (49 page with some of my drawings her body body) and its equipment. and also some of the tapes, which I have the full interview, but I will not show it before I have permission from her.

I will send this short form still sensational document four of my trusted friends in Finland, Norway, Germany and France, and I hope they will translate it into their language and in other languages, and I hope as many people as possible will be able to read and understand the transcript.

If You get it, please send this to all your friends via email, or make a printout and copying them.

I certify, in addition, various "paranormal" the ability of its variations like telepathy and telekinesis (including the movement and dance my pencil on the table without having to touch and flight Apple around 40 centimeters in her hands) were shown to me during those 3 hours of the meeting, and I am absolutely sure that these skills were not tricks.

Next of course is difficult to understand and to believe for someone who has not experienced it, but I was really in touch with her opinion , and I'm now completely convinced that all she said during an interview is the absolute truth about our world.

Unfortunately, if I read a complete transcript, and (much more), then it is very short form one I have a strong impression that all I have written sounds too incredible to be true, which all seems rather bad history of science fiction, and I have doubts that anyone will believe my experiments. But they are true. Actually even not so important - You believe it or not. I cannot expect You to believe my simple words without physical evidence, but I can't give You them yet without permission.

Please read the transcript and You will probably see the truth in my words. Will be a new meeting between me and her (again in the same house in Sweden) on April 23, 2000, where she promised to give me, maybe some evidence for its existence.

Meanwhile I collect the questions that I will ask her then. Maybe she gives me permission to show a greater number of missing parts in the transcript and about the coming war.
Believe it or not is up to You, but I repeat that it is not so important!.

Sincerely,
OLE K. on 8 January 2000"



Transcript of interview with "LASERTO"

Transcript of the Interview (short form)
Date: December 16, 1999

Question: First of all, who are You? Are You extraterrestrial species, or your origin can be found on this planet?

Answer: As You could see with your own eyes, I'm not the man (!) like You, if to be honest I don't mammal - despite my partially-like mammal features of the organs of the body, which are the result of a kind of evolution I - female reptile, belongs to a very old race reptiles (reptilians).

We are the native people of earth, and we live on the same planet millions of years. We mentioned in our religious texts like your Christian Bible, and some of the ancient human races knew our presence and some worshipped us, for example, the Egyptians and the Incas and many other old tribes. Your Christian religion misinterpreted our role in your creation, so we referred to as "the evil serpent " in your letters.

If You ask me if I'm an alien, I have to answer no. We are native Terrans. We had and have some colonies in the solar system, but we come from this planet.

Question: can You tell me name your own?

Answer: It is difficult because your human language is unable to speak or understand. Our language is very different from yours, but my name something you will sound like "Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh..." with a very strong emphasis on the sound of "k" and "sh".

We do not have any proper names like You, but only in a special procedure at a young age during special religious initiation. Please call me "Lacerta", that is my name, which I do use that when I am among people and talk with them.

Question: How old are You?

Answer: We measure the time not like You in astronomical years and in changing of the earth around the sun, because we usually live below the surface of the planet.

Our dimension of time depends on periodically rotating cycles in the earth's magnetic field and according to this and if to Express your calendar I reached my adult stage, and my "age" 16,337 cycles ago (this is a very important date for us.) According to your human time scale me about 28 years.

Question: What is your task? You have a "job" like us?

Answer: Yes, in your words: I am a student of the social behaviour of your species.

That is why I am here to tell You, that's why I showed my real nature of existence to your buddy, and now You, and that's why I give You everything also applies to classified information, and why I will try to answer all questions honestly.

I'll be watching how You respond, and other whales your kind respond. There are so many lunatics and liars your view on this planet who claimed to know the truth about us, about those phenomena that you called UFOs, aliens, and so forth, and some of You believe their lies. It is unpleasant even to us, is the scoundrels from our point of view.

I'm personally interested to personally see how your kind respond, if You see the truth, which I will tell You now publicly! I am quite confident that each of You will refuse to believe my words, but I hope so... because You need to understand how You survive these years...

Question: can You give me now the short answer: (UFO) actually flying objects are managed by the aliens, or they belong to your species?

Answer: Some of the observed UFO - as You call them belong to us, but most do not. Most of mysterious flying objects in the sky - not technological devices, but mostly incorrect interpretation of natural phenomena, scientists do not have, you know - like spontaneous plasma signal rockets in the high atmosphere.

However, some UFOs are real, belonging to your own varieties and especially for your military or other alien species or, finally, to us. Why do you cheat Your way...this is not fair.

Less observable objects-ins really belongs to us, because we are generally very careful with our movements in the atmosphere, and we have special ways to hide our aircraft.

If You read a message about detection of a metal-bright-gray-shaped cigars cylindrical object with light lights... at a height of between 20 and 260 your feet and if this object has made a very deep sound buzz and if it was 5 bright redthose lights on metal (metalish) surface cigars (one upstairs, one in the middle, two at the end) then it is likely that someone You have seen one of our vessels.

And this means that it has been partially or defect, or that anybody who was not careful enough. We also have a very small fleet having the form of a disk module, but such "UFO" belong usually to foreign varieties.

Triangular UFO belong at all to your own military corps, but they are using the alien technology to build them. If You really want to try to see one of our sites, You should take a look at the heavens in the Arctic, the Antarctic and within Asia (especially in mountains).

Question: do You Have special identification symbol with which we can identify your view?

Answer: We have two main symbol of our kind.

One (more ancient symbol - blue snake with four white wings on a black background (the colors have religious significance for us).
This symbol was used on some parts of my society, but it is now very rarely You people copied it very often in your ancient manuscripts...

Another symbol of the mystical which You would call a "Dragon" in the form of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more popular today.

If You see one of these characters on a cylindrical object-ship, I would advise You to leave as soon as possible. I previously explained why.

Question: the seven stars are the second character that You mentioned - they mean the Pleiades?

Answer: The Pleiades? these seven stars planets and the moon, and they are the symbol of our past seven colonies in the solar system. Stars appear before a blue background, and the circle dragon means the shape of the Earth. Seven white stars mean the moon, Mars, Venus and 4 of the moon, Jupiter and Saturn, we colonized them in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and left, so 5 stars would be more appropriate....

Question: Because You have not allowed me to take pictures that would be very useful to prove your real existence, and the truth of this story - can You describe more in detail?

Answer: I know that it would be useful to prove the authenticity of the interview, if You can do some photos of me. You people are great skeptics. Even if You had such photographs, many of your kind would say that they are scams that I am only a disguised man woman or something like that...that would be offensive to me.

You must understand that I cannot give You permission to take pictures of me or my equipment

This has various reasons that I want to discuss with You further, but one of the reasons is the high level of the mystery of our existence, the other reason has religious significance. However, You have permission to do drawings of my appearance and my equipment, I can show it to You later.

I can also try to describe yourself, but I doubt that any of your species will be able to imagine my real opinion only by mere words, because the automatic retraction of the existence reptiloids types and at all intelligent species other then your own - part programming your opinion.

Well, I will try to describe myself...

Imagine the body of normal human woman. Like You, I have a head, two arms, two arms, two legs-pillars and two feet, and the size of my body like you.

Because I'm female, I have also two Breasts. Despite our origin of reptiles, we started to give milk to our infants during the development process - that happened about 30 million years ago - because it is the best thing.

Development did it for your species already in the age of the dinosaur and a bit later - also for our. This means not that we are now real mammals, but the chest us not as large as the human women, and their size is generally equal for every woman of my type. External reproductive organs of both sexes, smaller than humans, but they are visible, and they have the same function as your (other present development of our species.)

My skin is mainly green-beige color - pale green - and we have some samples brown irregular points (each point size of 1 to 2 cm) on our skin and in our face-patterns are different for both sexes, but women have more, especially in the lower part of the body and face.

You can see them in my case as two lines on the eyebrows, crossing my forehead, my cheek and my chin. My eyes are a bit bigger than the human eye is for this reason, we can see better in the dark.

We are all ears, but they are smaller and not so curved as yours, but we can hear better, because our ears are more sensitive to sound - we can also hear a wider sound frequency range.

There muscle or "cap" on the ears that can protect them - for example under water.

Our nose is more sensitive and bent between the nostrils, which allowed the ancestors "feel" the temperature.

We lost most of that ability, but we can still feel the heat much better with this "authority". Our lips are shaped like your in women than in men, but pale brown and our teeth very white and strong and slightly longer and more severe then, as your soft teeth mammal no.

We have no different hair colors like your specimens (but there is a tradition to paint hair in different ages) and the original color is like my greenish brown color. Our hair is thicker and stronger than yours, and they grow very slowly. In fact - the head is the only part of our body - the body, where we have hair.

Our body, hands and feet are similar in shape and size to your, but the color is green, beige, like the face.

Our five fingers slightly longer and thinner, then human fingers and our skin on the palm simple, so that we don't have any lines like You, but again the combination of such scale structure of the skin and brown points both sexes have a point on the palm and we have no fingerprints like You.

If You touch my skin, You will feel that it is more smooth than your hairy skin.

There is a small, sharp horns from the top of both middle fingers. Nails sulfur and generally longer then your. You see that my nails are not as long and rounded...

This is because I am female. Men have a sharp aimed nails long, sometimes 5 or 6 inches.

The next feature is very different from your body and part of our reptilian of origin: if You touch the back side of my body, You will feel hard bony line.

This is not my spine, but very difficult shaped the external structure of the skin and tissue just after our spine from head to thigh.

There chrezvychaino high number of nerve endings and large blood vessels in this structure and in plates - this is the reason why we have the problem always sit in your chairs - like those in this house.

The main task of these small plates - just the regulation of our temperature of the body-the body and if we sit in a natural or artificial sunlight, these plates are becoming more krovenosnaya and vessels become wider. So the sun can heat up our reptilian blood which circulates through the body and through plate) to raise the temperature of the skin, which gives us great pleasure.

What else is different from your view? Oh, we have no navel, because we were born a great way to your birth mammal. Other external differences from your minor, and I think I should not mention all now, because most of them, apparently not, if we wear clothes.

I hope that the description of my body was detalizirovano enough.

Question: What kind of clothes do You have, and generally are. I assume this is not what You usually wear?

Answer: No, I wear the clothes of your animals every day, wearing only when I am among people.

Honestly, it's not very comfortable for me to wear such oblecenie things, and this is always a very unusual sense. If we are in our own underground house or in our large artificial fields of the sun and if we are together, we usually do the bare...

It's disgusting to You? When we are in public, and along with many others of my species we carry a very wide and padded clothes made of thin flammable material.

I told You that many parts of our bodies are very sensitive to contacts, mainly small plates issadi, so we can't feel completely comfortable in a tight clothes, because it can hurt us. Different species of reptiles are of different kinds of clothes by color - for the differences.

Question: You said " others close to your own name ". You mean your family?

Answer: No, not really. You called it "family", but with this word, You mean only any of your species, which belong genetically (genetically) together like the father or the mother and child.

As I said earlier, we have a very difficult and unique name. Part of this is the concept of " family" in its name is unique and there is no other similar with the same name, but the houre - middle part of the apparent in the way, "family" should I use the word, because You do not have the right analog in your dictionary. You belong...

This does not mean that all in the same group is genetically related to You, because these groups are usually very large and contain between 40 and 70 of our species.

This group includes General your genetic relationship - but one of them decided to leave this group and your relationship with the father, and the mother is often the most powerful. It would be too hard for me to explain to You now, our old social system that is very complex, and we would need many hours only for basic things. Perhaps we can dedicate more time, and I can give You a detailed description of all these things.

Question: Have You personally tail like a normal reptiles?

Answer: You see it? No, we have no visible tail. If You look at our skeleton, there is only a small rounded bone at the end of our spine behind the pelvis. It is useless rudiment of the tail of our ancestors, but it is not visible from the outside.

About our embryos have tails in the first months of development, but these tails disappear before they were born. The tail makes only sense for primitive types, which tries to walk on two legs (s) and must keep a balance tail, but our skeleton has changed during development, and our spine almost in the same form as yours, so we don't need no tail to stay on two legs just like you..

Question: You said that You were born different from our way. You lay eggs?

Answer: Yes, but not like your face or primitive reptiles. In fact, the embryo grows in liquid protein inside the uterus of the mother, but there is also an oval, but very thin malebrance floor-housing around it, which fills the whole uterus. There is also a cord like your navel cord that is associated with a point hidden in the back.

When the child is going to be born, the whole egg pressed through the vagina, closed (covered in slimy substance (essence) of the protein, and the baby came out of this soft eggs after some minutes. These two clips on our middle fingers instinctively used from babies to break through the casing chalk to take their first breath.

Our baby is not as big as your babies when they were born, they are between 30 and 35 of your centimeters high, egg around 40 centimeters (this is because our vagina smaller than a human female) but we grow to normal size from 1,60 1,80 meters.

Question: What about your body temperature? You said that You love to lie in the sun. What effect has this to your body?

Answer: We are not mammals and like reptiles, our body temperature depends on the temperature of our surroundings. If You touch my hand, You may feel that it is more cold than yours, because our normal body temperature is about 30 and 33 degrees Celsius. If we sit in the sun, especially naked in the sun - our body temperature can rise to 8 or 9 degrees within a few minutes.

This rise increases the production of many enzymes and hormones in our body, our heart and the brain, and every body becomes more active, and then we feel ourselves very, very well. You people just love to be a little on the sun, but for us, it is the greatest pleasure You can imagine (perhaps like your sexual excitement.)

We also love to swim in very warm water or other liquid to raise our body temperature. If we are in for some hours in the shade, our temperature back again to between 30 and 33 degrees.

It can not cause any harm to us, but we feel much better in the sun. We have artificial rooms (places) "artificial sun" in the metro (underground), but this is not the same in itself for us like the real sun.

Question: What do You eat?

Answer: Generally things like You: the flesh of the fruit, vegetables, special types of fungus from underground farms) and other things. We can also have some substances entities that are poisonous to You.

The main difference between You and us that we must eat the flesh because our body is the body needs proteins. We cannot live fully vegetarians like your mind because our body would stop working, and we will die after a few weeks or perhaps months without eating meat.

Many of us eat raw flesh or other things that would be disgusting to You. Personally, I prefer prepared (cooked) flesh and surface fruits like apples or oranges.

Question: can You tell me something about the natural history and development of your species? How old is your kind? You evolved from primitive reptiles?

Answer: Oh, this is a very long and complicated story, and it sounds, of course, incredible to You but it is true. I will try to explain it briefly. About 65 million years ago, many of our unadvanced ancestors of race dinosaur died in the great global cataclysm.

The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster (the impact of an asteroid), because your scientists believe is false - but a war between two enemy groups of foreigners who took mainly place in orbit and high atmosphere of your planet.

According to our limited knowledge about the early days of this global war was the first foreign war on planet earth, but it was not the last in the past (and future war may come soon, while the "cold war" as You call it - between the foreign groups, ongoing since in the past (past) 73 on your planet.

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Opponents in these 65 mln year old wars were two advanced alien species whose names - again unpronounceable for your languages. I can speak them, but it will damage your ear, if I soobshu You their names in an original way. One race was humanoid like your species (but much older) and was from this universe, from the solar system in the constellation of the stars, which You call "Procyon" today, in your maps.

Another kind about which we know not much was reptilian species, but they have no relation to our own species, because we evolved from local saurians without external influence (except успешныхl manipulation of our own genes carried out by us. More about this later.) Advanced reptilian kind of came not from this universe, and from more advanced, how can I say this to You.

Your scientists don't really understand the true nature of the universe, because your illogical thinking is not able to see the lightest things and relies on the wrong mathematics and numbers. This is part of the genetic programming of your view, I will tell about it later. Let me say that You almost as far from understanding of the universe, as You were 500 years ago.

To use other terms, You will probably understand: another kind of came not from this universe, and on the other bubbles in the foam of the Universe". You would call it, perhaps another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it properly (by the way, measurement - term altogether wrong in the direction that You understand it.

The fact that You have to remember that the more advanced variant able to move between the bubbles with - You would call it - quantum technologies and sometimes in special ways by their thinking (my own form also took mental abilities far compared with your kind, but we are not able to parestesia between changing worlds without technology. But another kind, active on this planet capable of, and it looks to you like magic, because it must be your ancestors).

Back to our own history: the first type (humanoids) reached Earth about 150 years before the reptilians, and they built some colonies on the old continent. There was a large colony in the continent, which You call "Antarctica" today and even on the same continent, which You call "Asia" today. These people lived together with such saurians animals on the planet without problems.

When advanced reptilan variety arrived in this system, a humanoid colonists from "Procyon" tried to contact them peacefully, but have not succeeded, and the global war was launched within a few months. You must understand that both the variety were interested in this young planet for their biology and undeveloped species, and for only one reason: raw materials, especially copper.
To understand this reason, You should know that copper is a very important material for some advanced species (even today) because it together with some non-permanent materials capable of producing new stable elements, if You call high electromagnetic field in the correct corner with a strong nuclear radiation field, something happens at the intersection of these oscillating fields.

An alloy of copper with other elements in such a magnetic/radiaton field together can produce a force field of a special nature, which is very useful for various technological tasks (but the basis for this is a very complicated formula, which You are not able to detect because of the limitations of your primitive thinking.
Both varieties wanted copper Planet Earth and for this reason, was unleashed short war locally and in orbit. Humanoid species, it seemed, was more successful for the first time, but in the last battle, reptilians decided to use the powerful experimental weapons - bomb of a special alloy, which was to destroy the life forms on the planet, but must not damage the valuable raw materials and copper.

The bomb was released and exploded at the point of your planet You call " Middle America " today. As she exploded in the ocean, it produced unpredictable alloy with hydrogen, and the effect was much stronger than the reptilians had expected. Deadly radiation, the overproduction of oxygen precipitates of various elements and "nuclear winter" for nearly 200 years have been the result.

Most humanoids were killed, but reptilians lost interest in the planet after several years (even for us) unknown reasons - perhaps because of the radiation. The earth Planet was on her own again, and animals on the surface died. By the way, one of the results of fusion bombs were deposits of various items and materials generated in the combustion process and one of which the material was Iridium.

Your human scientists now see the concentration of Iridium in some strata of the earth, as evidence of the impact of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. This is not true, but You should know this?

Well, most of the dinosaurs died (not all in the blast, but the bad things that arrived after the war, especially in the nuclear winter and in precipitation.) Almost all dinosaurs and reptilians were dead within the next 20 years. Some of them - especially those in the oceans - have been able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this changed world, but this variety is also died, because the climate has changed.

Nuclear winter, finished after 200 years, but it was colder on earth then before. Despite the cataclysm, some species was able to survive: fish (like sharks), birds, little creepy mammals (your ancestors), various reptiles like crocodiles ... and there was a special kind of small but advanced dinosaurs that have evolved with the last large animals reptilians varieties. You call - the Tyrannosaurus.

This new reptile walked on two legs and looked a bit like your iguanodon (it happened in this family), but smaller (about 1.50 m high) with some humanoid features, changed structure of the bone, the large skull and brain, the hand with the thumb, which was able to capture things, different organism and disgestion, advanced eye in the middle of your head like your eyes and ... most importantly ... with a new and better brain structure. This was our direct ancestor.

There are theories that radiation from the bombs took part in the mutations of the body of this new breed, but this is not proven. However, this small, like humanoid dinosaur that developed during the following 30 million years (as I said earlier, that the need for the development of thinking skills takes much more time, but this development was stimulated - under the influence of mutations) from animal to more or menemukanmu being.

These beings were smart enough not to die in the next millions of years, because they learned to change their behaviour, they did not live in caves, and in a cold climate, and they learned to use the stones and objects as the first tools. Also, used fire as a means of warming - especially warming their blood, which is very important for our species to survive.

For 20 million years, this species was divided by nature in 27 podrazdelenija (unfortunately, still reptilian species was inclined to divide ourselves more or less illogical way in podrazavalacki during the development process. You can clearly see this in unnecessarily high number of varieties of dinosaurs in earlier times), and there were many (mainly primitive) wars between this podrazavalacki for domination.

Well, nature has not been very friendly to us, and how far we know of these 27 podrazdelenija, 24 were destroyed in the primitive wars and in the development, because their bodies and opinion were not developed enough to survive, and (as the main reason they were not able to change their blood temperature in the right way if the climate was changing.

50 million years after the war and after the end of the Dinosaurs, only three (now also technological) reptilian-type advanced and remained on this planet together with all the other lower animals. Through natural and artificial selection the three varieties was United to one reptilian species and through genetic manipulation, we were able to "eliminate" tend to divide the genes in our genetic structure.

According to our history and faith, it was a time when our end-Goncaruk reptilian - because You see me today - was created with the help of genetic engineering. It was about 10 million years ago, and our development almost stopped at that point (in fact there were some minor changes in the species, as most humanoid and other mammals that appear throughout the generations, we are not divided again on podrazavalacki.

You see, we are a very old race in comparison with your views that rode around while small creatures like the monkey lived in the trees at the time, as we invented the technology, colonized planets in this system, built big cities on this planet (which disappeared without a trace in centuries) and have designed our own genes while your genes were still on the animal stage.

10 million years ago when little human ancestors began to grow, then they fell from the trees to the ground (again due to climate change) - especially on the so-called African continent. But they have been slow to develop because it is normal for a mammal, and if nothing out of the ordinary happened to your form, we could sit here and talk, because I would sit in my comfortable modern house and You cidade would be in your cave, wearing fur and trying to light the fire. Or You may be sitting at one of our zoos. But the events developed in another way, and You believe now that You are the Crown of creation " and can sit in a modern house, but we have to escape and live below ground in remote areas.

About 1.5 million years ago, another extraterrestrial variety reached Earth (it was the first kind of starting with more than 60 million years). And it would be even more surprising, if You found out how many different varieties here today. The interest of this humanoid types - You call them the Elohim today - was not raw or copper. These were, to our surprise, advanced humanoid monkeys.

Despite our presence on this planet, the aliens decided to "help" You to grow a little faster, to serve them in the future as some auxiliary slave race in future wars.

The fate of your view was not really important to us, but we do not like the presence of Elohim on the planet, and they did not like our presence on their new "galactic zoo". And so, your sixth and seventh was the reason for war between us and them. You can read about that war partly for example in the book, which You call "the Bible", but in a very strange way of describing.

The real truth is very long and difficult history. Should I continue?

Question: No, not now. I made some notes about your history, and now have some questions.

Answer: Please ask.

Question: First of all, You make a very large time scale. You claim that your primitive ancestors lived with dinosaurs, and survived...